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Predefinito OTTOBRE 1976: TELEFONATA TRA ELVIS E RED WEST

NELL'OTTOBRE 1976 RED WEST RICEVETTE UNA TELEFONATA DA ELVIS, ALL'EPOCA RED RISIEDEVA A LOS ANGELES ED ERA IL PERIODO IN CUI STAVA SCRIVENDO IL LIBRO "ELVIS WHAT HAPPENED?" CON LA COLLABORAZIONE DEL CUGINO SONNY WEST E DAVE HEBLER.
ELVIS ERA GIA' A CONOSCENZA DELLA PROSSIMA USCITA DI QUEL LIBRO...
ECCOVI LA STESURA DELL'INTERA TELEFONATA. ORA CI VORREBBE QUALCUNO BRAVO CON L'INGLESE CHE POTESSE TRADURRE A GRANDI LINEE, IL SUCCO DELLA TELEFONATA.

This is Red West. Youíre about to hear a telephone conversation between Elvis Presley and myself, that I recorded sometime in October 1976 while I was in Los Angeles, writing the book ďElvis- What HappenedĒ, along with my cousin Sonny West and Dave Hebler. It was no secret that we were writing the book, and knowing Elvis as I did, I knew he would try and contact us. I also knew that we would be called liars, Judases, traitors and any other expletives, by fans and even some people around him who we had been close to up until this time. I knew that he would reveal in the conversation enough information that would substantiate what we said in the book. It was even more than I had expected. And more than I wanted to hear. By this, I mean, I heard a sad and lonely man, a man I had grown up with, and watched rise from near poverty to become the greatest entertainer this world will ever see. A boy in a manís body who could not handle the celebrity that he had now become. I had a sinking feeling that I would never see my best friend again. And I didnít...


ELVIS: HOW YOU DOING MAN?

RED: I JUST WOKE UP.

ELVIS: I WAS JUST ON ONE OF THOSE SINGING BINGES. I GOT A COUPLE NEW GUITARS AND SINGING MY ASS OFF. WATCHING LITTLE KIDS MARVEL. IíM BY MYSELF, LINDA IS IN L.A. SHEíS CHANGING APARTMENTS. WE HAD THAT APARTMENT, THE PEOPLE FOUND I WAS IN BACK OF IT AND RAISED THE RENT DOUBLE. SHE GOT ANOTHER ONE RIGHT DOWN THE STREET. CHARLIE TOLD ME ABOUT THE TALK YOU ALL HAD, I GUESS I DO OWE AN EXPLANATION.

RED: I WISH YOU HAD COME TO ME AND TOLD ME.

ELVIS: YOU DONíT DO THINGS LIKE THAT CAUSE THATíS MY DADDYíS BUSINESS.

RED: NO ITíS NOT.

ELVIS: I WAS GETTING A LOT OF EXCESS PRESSURE. YOU KNOW THAT RACQUET THING. TWO COURTS FOR A MILLION THREE HUNDRED THOUSAND DOLLARS? MY UNDERSTANDING WAS THAT WE WERE GOING TO JUST USE MY NAME. AND THATíS ALL AND THAT WAS THE CONTRACT I SIGNED. I DID IT AS A FAVOR FOR DR. NICK AND JOE. IíM JUST TRYING TO TELL SOME OF THE THINGS THAT LED UP TO IT. I WAS WRONG ABOUT HEBLER. JUST A BAD THING ON MY PART. HE WAS VERY UNDERMINING AND SNEAKY.
HE HATED ALL YOU GUYS AND EVERYBODY ELSE AND I KEPT THIS ****. IT JUST BURNED INTO MY EAR. AND THOSE deleted - see guidelines #2 LAWSUITS IN TWO YEARS. I DONíT KNOW WHETHER YOU HEARD IT, BUT THEY WERE TRYING TO PROVE US INSANE. IíM TALKING ABOUT SOME INFLUENTIAL PEOPLE WHO WERE CHECKING PSYCHIATRIST REPORTS. THEY WERE TRYING TO PROVE US INSANE. THE WHOLE BUNCH.

RED: I COULD NOT BELIEVE IT. YOU HAD LEFT TOWN. YOUR DADDY CALLED US AND TALKED ABOUT CUTTING DOWN EXPENSES AND GIVING US ONE WEEKíS NOTICE. THEY GIVE CHINESE COOLIES TWO WEEKS.

ELVIS: I DIDNíT KNOW ANYTHING ABOUT IT. THE ONE WEEK THING.

RED: THE BOTTOM FELL OUT. I GOT A LITTLE HURT AT FIRST.

Elvis: ****

Red: But anyway, where were we...

Elvis: You know my damn voice is so low; I make J.D. Sumner sound like a tenor. We sang so long, I got a new Martin guitar, my damn fingers are blistered, let me tell ya, ya know.

Red: Yeah, thatís the way mine used to get when Iíd sit up and start writing songs, my three first fingers, just too big, I mean, just had big blisters on the end of them. But uh, oh, shit, I wish I could get my mind cleared, just waking up...ah, talk about...oh yeah, talking about...

Elvis: Iím, ah, ya know, Iím not working on but one cylinder.

Red: But like I said, ah, Iíve got a...that show is doing pretty good, Iíve got a regular running part in it, that starts in the next three or four weeks, I think, and I think Iím gonna hang with that.

Elvis: Well, you know, that thing that happened, ah, was a combination of a whole lotta things building up. It wasnít necessarily, ah, personal, or even the deleted - see guidelines #2 lawsuits... You know, it was like a... a fuse blowing, you know, just because of a lot of things that piled up on me. (Red: Yeah, well...) And ah... maybe I did lose sight of a...a couple things. Especially you, your family and everything.

Red: Yeah, it was cold Elvis...

Elvis: Ah, I love Pat (Redís wife). And ah...You got a good family and everything...

Red: Well, I had a lot of time to think about it. I mean I can sit here and people say Ďoh, the old daysí, and all of that shit, but it did cross my mind. And all I ever done is trying to... maybe sometimes overprotect ya, and thatís the Godís honest truth.

Elvis: Yeah, I know that.

Red: Yeah, ah, here I was (laugh) here I was, and, but that, you know, Elvis, like you say, you had problems and.

Elvis: Well you know what it is about that right? Itís like that old guy said in ďCool Hand LukeĒ, a failure to communicate.

Red: Yeah, well thatís the Godís honest truth. We sure as hell didnít communicate in the last year or so, ah...



Elvis: And that ah, it was just like ya said, it was just a series of things... If I could lay them out to you one by one, I could show you the reasons why the separatismís... A lack of communication... My daddy was sick... Nearly dead. My family is strung all over the face of the United States. And ah... Itís just those deleted - see guidelines #2 lawyers and lawsuits ya know, making a mountain out of a molehill.

Red: Yeah, I know, there were some rough times, going through that, ya know, one lawsuit came along, and then everybody else saw the chance to jump on it, it mushroomed, and then boy, everybody and his cousin was after our ass, ya know.

Elvis: Yeah, thatís what I mean, ya know, one gets away with it, and thinks they do... What they try to do is to establish a pattern, you know, of insanity and violence. Like condemn me for shooting out that lamp up there in.

Red: What the hell is that?

Elvis: That Hilton Hotel there, with a .22 target pistol.

Red: Yeah... Oh, yeah, well, weíre known as the wild bunch.

Elvis: Yeah, thatís for sure... But the good old days, are, are still a fact.

Red: Yeah, there definitely a fact, and they always will be. But I mean, whatís done is done. We... We had a lot of good times man, there for a while. But like you said, things got real serious, a lot of problems came up... Ah, I donít know, we just lost sight of a lot of things. Probably good things, and I donít know, Itís just... The fun, the fun left.

Elvis: The fun ceased to exist. It, it... I couldnít pinpoint it, just couldnít quite figure it out, I couldnít point it down... Shit... deleted - see guidelines #2 racquetball courts...

Red: Yeah, I passed by there the other day, well I passed by for a while, while you were all gone, and its still Presley Center Courts... And just before I came...

Elvis: Their gonna take that down...

Red: Huh?

Elvis: They ought to take that down.

Red: They already have, yeah, I was gonna say, just before I came out here, I was... I didnít see that sign anymore...

Elvis: Okay... Oh, ah, well, ah, ya know... Last I heard it was still up ... But you know, a good conman, when itís my name... They got these builders and they got themselves bound to a contract. Two courts, there up to a half a million dollars each.

Red: Thatís too expensive...

Elvis: What the ****, man... Ah...Ah, poor Joe, ah, had his mother to hock her house, get a loan on her house, to get the money...

Red: Well, I can tell you about going into business with some sharp, sharpies, they donít care if you hock your mothers ass, you know, they...


Elvis: But thatís what he had to do.

Red: Yeah... did Joe get out of it?

Elvis: Huh?

Red: Is Joe out of it? Or is he...

Elvis: Yeah, heís in the process of trying to get out of it. Yeah but, the guy... The builders...They were contracted to build the damn thing, are the ones holding up the ball game... Ah, well I pulled out of it ya know, just, I had to, cause the salary and stuff, a con job, a sneaky deal, ya know...

Red: Well, I didnít know, ya know I, I didnít know if it was or not, but, I just has a feeling it was.

Elvis: It started off kind of innocent, I was told one thing, like, ah, I wouldnít have to put up a dime, ya know, There would be no money or nothing, well, that was the contract that I signed. I talked to daddy about it just after he came out of the hospital. We talked over a period of time about it... You know if it will help Joe and Nick...
They can use my name, because I couldnít benefit nothing from it.

Red: Right, it was just something to help them out, Nick, you know, Nick didnít, I donít think Nick knew the guy that well.

Elvis: I donít think he did either.

Red: No, he just got sucked in. He saw a chance to make some money, hoping, Joe did too, but this other guy, the one I was leery of.

Elvis: Oh, that sonofabitch, no he ah, I talked to my attorneys yesterday about the racquetball thing. You know Mr. Davis died.

Red: Yeah, I know, I saw it in the paper just before I left.

Elvis: Well the guy thatís taking his place, just ah, said that, he said that ah, he started telling me, to help, all this lawyer stuff, and then he said, he said ďElvisĒ, this sonofabitch is a con artist, rigged up. Ya see, they came running in and said one thing... Well, ya see, what started happening would be ah, they started hitting me up for ten thousand, twenty thousand?

Red: They started hitting you up for it?

Elvis: Yeah.

Red: Oh yeah, there, well, there is a pattern.

Elvis: Thatís what I thought, well, I said, you guys putting up, ah, that kind of money? Ya know, they said yeah, weíre in, so itís all mine. Lawyers, theyíll **** you blind. (Laugh)

Red: Yeah, I remember he was on one of the tours with us.

Elvis: On the tour, pretending to be interested in numerology books and stuff. But it all falls in to place, but were smart enough to do that. All right, then ah, ah, it amounted to they needed eighty thousand dollars. I said ok, for what? For a secretary. (Laugh)

Red: deleted - see guidelines #2, boy Iíll tell ya, them secretaries; they got a union there or something.
Elvis: Thatís exactly what I said. Said what the hell, I didnít know how, but a secretary is gonna cost eighty thousand dollars.

Red: Shit... No, it was time you got the hell out of that shit.

Elvis: Yeah... I mean I tried to hang in there with them, you know. Cause... I didnít want to crush their enthusiasm, their dreams, or whatever, you know...

Red: Just crush their secretary... (Laugh)

Elvis: You need a $ 80,000 secretary.

Red: God almighty, thatís more than the president of the board makes.

Elvis: Well, ah, you know, they had all these cards and shit, man... About Chairman of the board... It started out as Presley Center Courts. And they changed that to Elvis Presley Center Courts without ever even asking me one thing about it... They had all these cards and shit made up... President... Vice-president... Still, didnít even come to me and ask me...

Red: Oh Hell, once they got your name on it... Once, this Mike, got your name on it... I mean, I heard him; he went to Nashville, and everywhere, saying I represent Mr. Elvis Presley in this racquetball venture... Just on your name alone, you know, he just ah, got what the hell he wanted, but ah... I donít know what Iím trying to say. We gotta get back to my problem... Man, Iíve never done any of that. Itís just... Old Red, he was trying to do a job, man, and.

Elvis: Ah, ah... I wasnít using it as an example. I was just telling you.

Red: Yeah, oh, no, I know that, weíre talking about something I donít know about, that racquetball court, man... I just know about my problems.

Elvis: What started out as a friendship and a favor, and everything, has turned into a million, three hundred thousand dollar project. If... If you realize how long it would take to realize a profit... And to put that money in to it...

Red: Yeah, Iím afraid so, it would take...

Elvis: Theyíd be so old, until they think the racquet resembles a friendly banjo. (Laughing) Hey, what is this? Trying to play it. (laugh)

Red: Plaster falling off the walls, oh shit, well, like, Nick, poor old Nick... Everybodyís trying to make a buck... Like Nickís Chips, he went in to man, hell, that was a flop, they had everything figured but the damn truck that hauled them over from Arkansas...

Elvis: Nickís Chips, shit (laugh)

Red: well that fell through, like...

Elvis: I never seen anybody drive to a hospital in something... deleted - see guidelines #2 I mean, I had mixed emotions, I hit the floor, the first night, just rolled there. Nickís Chips damn, ah, the first thing I conjured up in my mind was, ah, a gambler, saying heís in Vegas And Nick the Greek, ya know, heís the gambler. Thatís what I created in my mind. Nickís Chips... Shit... He just donít ... He obviously just donít know, you know, and these friendly contractors are just cold hearted business men, I mean...

Red: Oh, sure, look... Donít mess with a guy like that, I mean their dollars talk, and thatís it. But ah...

Elvis: Yeah, but the way it was done, they lead, they lead their calf to slaughter.

Red: Yeah, well, you got out of it; youíre out of it then, right?

Elvis: Ah, yeah, Iím in the process of getting out of it.

Red: Okay... I donít blame you, because when you start going in to business with a bunch of people, if you do it yourself, then you know whatís happening, but when you get two or three other guys...

Elvis: With My signature, hell, they must have all went stark raving mad.

Red: Sure it did, I know that Mike did...

Elvis: The lawyers read to me the contract yesterday, where it said that if anything happened, I would stand good for the whole thing.

Red: Uh Oh, yea well, see then, they didnít tell you...

Elvis: You know, I donít even care that much about racquetball. Yeah, I would stand good for the whole thing. So that was news to me. Also, I just found out yesterday, that this guy Mike had set him up. Ah, management fee was $ 50,000 dollars a year... Extra...

Red: Sure!

Elvis: Joe didnít know anything about it; Nick didnít know a damn thing about it. But yet, the lawyers had it, right there.

Red: Yeah, well, thatís what I figured. This Mike Conned Nick and everybody else in to it. And he did well on it. Thatís a shame, man, Nick is always... I thought he was smart... I thought Joe was smart...

Elvis: Not when it comes to business, heís not.

Red: No. I think weíre on a party line or something.

Elvis: And my whole thing ya see, I can never possibly realize any kind of a profit out of it. I did it just as a friendship thing, ya know, I didnít think it was... There was no harm, ya know, in helping these guys get a couple racquetball courts, one here, one in Nashville, however, it was fine with me. I didnít see no harm...

Red: No, not

Elvis: But you see, the paper that I signed had nothing of that mentioned, so my lawyer figures that this shit was put in there after I signed it. Ya know what I mean?

Red: Yeah.

Elvis: Because you know damn near well, I wouldnít have signed it. After a while, stand good for a couple of, friendly racquet, half a million dollar racquetball courts.

Red: Yeah.


Elvis: That just totally surprised me too. A half a million dollars, for a racquetball court? Why hell, I can get Earl in with a hammer... (Laugh) And Albert, let him construct one. Donít give the woodpeckers long enough.

Red: Heíll build it for $ 39.38, oh well they must have gone for the sauna, the whole health club bit, or something. They had to, it donít cost that much to build no damn two racquetball courts.

Elvis: Huh.

Red: I donít know, well...

Elvis: Well, ah, I think itís gonna be ten courts at each place.

Red: Oh, huh, oh...

Elvis: I mean, ten places to play like out at Memphis State.

Red: Yeah, well.

Elvis: But still...

Red: Thatís...

Elvis: You take that, you take a man and a womanís showers, It canít add up to no half a million dollars.

Red: Thatís a lot of money.

Elvis: Well shit, ah, you know, I got one built here in the back, ya know, the one I got, that sonofabitch was only eighty thousand. You know how plush it is...

Red: Yeah, ya damn right, Yeah, itís ah...

Elvis: These people just, itís like you said, they saw my signature and went stark raving mad.

Red: Yeah, yes sir. Everybody was taken in after they got your signature, plus when was this damn guys salary supposed to start, already? Mike and the secretary and all that shit.

Elvis: Yeah.

Red: And are you supposed to pay for that huh? yeah, bullshit, bullshit. Just get the hell out.

Elvis: Merchandise and things, little cards, little pamphlets, little advertisements, and this and that... And all of that, without my knowledge, without consulting me, without asking me about it, ya know... So it just built up into a friendly monster!

Red: Yeah, your damn right it did, They... Theyíre trying to take advantage of you. I donít blame you for getting the hell out of it... But ah, then I guess, ya know, all that pressure and everything, lawsuits and everything led up to our demise, you know, whatever, but ah, it was a shock, to all of us... Old Dave, he was out here, you know, he was flat ass broke... Well, weíre all broke. Of course I had some property and stuff. I sold ah, I sold my house. I hated to do that, you know, but when you got to do something, you gotta do it.

Elvis: You sold your house?

Red: Oh yeah, sold my house, both cars and everything, and ah, Hebler... He was just flat ass broke, and Sonny was just down to the... Oh well, you know, it was just, it was a bad time by all, Iíll tell you.

Elvis: Well, I guess thereís never any real good times. It was a bad time for me too. I hadnít been out of the hospital long enough to start rolling...

Red: But, ah...

Elvis: My daddy... I almost lost him. Heís my daddy, regardless of anything.

Red: Oh, yeah, listen, I can understand. But, ah, yeah, we were just, we were in shock for a while, but what do we do, you know. But then we thought about it, and all the pressure and everything, and said, well, I guess, ah, heís got his point too, itís just, I wish, we were always able to talk... A lot, most of the times, sometimes we couldnít, but ah, if I had just heard it from you, it would have been easier to take.

Elvis: Well, ah, in doing business and things of that nature, I donít,I donít do that.

Red: Oh, you mean about firing us and everything? Well...

Elvis: Yeah... I had to go to Palm Springs, analyze and weigh... deleted - see guidelines #2 racquetball courts. Iím still seeing little fuzzy balls...(laugh) But, ah, Charlie was telling me, well Charlie talked to you, and you thought I was on the other line...

Red: Ah huh, well, I thought... Ya know, I heard you know, that ah...

Elvis: I was over at my daddyís house going through these figures. If I wanted to hear something, I wouldnít do that... I would go another way. Ah...

Red: Well, you know how paranoid everybody gets about something like that. I just, I donít know why, I just thought...

Elvis: Oh sure, like looking over your shoulder and not knowing who the hell it is, Regardless of what.

Red: But, ah, anyway, itís all done and thatís it I guess now, cause ah...

Elvis: Howís Pat and the kids and stuff?

Red: Theyíre all fine, theyíre ah, just hanging on until I get something going.

Elvis: Well...

Red: But ah, itís just been kind of rough...

Elvis: Yeah, I was ah, I was very disillusioned by Hebler. He faked me off something terrible. I thought he was the way the both of us understood.

Red: What did he do?

Elvis: Huh?

Red: Well, what did he do, I mean...

Elvis: Well, you know, he just, he would say little things to me. Who he hated...
Red: (Laugh) Who he hated?

Elvis: Yeah...

Red: Damn.

Elvis: And... you know, this went on for a period of two years. Just... Ed Parker told me when I hired the sonofabitch, he said, keep him at armís length, but I still didnít catch on. Dumb ass me, man.

Red: Well, I really donít know what your talking about... Ah.

Elvis: Well, ah, itís hard to explain. I donít think he liked anybody in this group, except maybe Dean.

Red: Well, I,ah...

Elvis: I think that Iíd become a dollar sign to him, Red, I think in the process he lost sight of Elvis, first, you know, that can easily happen.

Red: Well, I guess, yeah, I guess so, ah...

Elvis: And... you know, when that happened, Red, Iíd become an object, not a person, but, ah, you know, Iím not that sign, I mean, that rouge, touring down there. Iím not that image, to build up. Iím myself.

Red: Yeah... Well, thatís the way I always like, ya know, try to think of it.

Elvis: And ah, ah, your so wrong on one thing, ah, and listen, donít get paranoid. Because Iím just talking to you as a friend. Now weíre on a private line and there is not a friendly soul, but us...

Red: Right.

Elvis: Ah... I am not ****** up by no means. On the contrary, Iíve never been in any, ah, better condition in my life.

Red: Well, what I was talking about... then, you had been pretty ****** up, so, thatís what I was talking about.

Elvis: Well, I went through a divorce, you know, you were there...

Red: Yeah.

Elvis: That wedding thing, ya know, that wedding thing. I had nothing to do with that. That was railroaded through, ah, I didnít even know who was there. It was all in a little room bout the size of a bathroom with a Supreme Court Justice. It was in there, over and done so quick, I didnít even realize I was married.

Red: Oh, yeah, your talking about your wedding...

Elvis: Yeah.

Red: Right, well, ya know, you donít think about these things, but at the time, it, it, ah, once again, itís that old, Iíve been with you, and all the sudden I was held back, and told one, That I wasnít supposed to come in.

Elvis: I ****** that up. I could see it, I could see it back then, but, see it wasnít my doing.

Red: Right
Elvis: Wasnít my doing.

Red: You know, I figured that was the Colonel and...

Elvis: It was a ramrod type thing. I had nothing to do with it... You know, All the sudden I was married.

Red: Yeah.

Elvis: And, ya know, ah, when you go through that, you keep your mind on one thing (laugh)

Red: Yeah, yeah right...

Elvis: It was pretty tough.

Red: Well I can understand that. That was a long time ago, but that was just a point I was bringing up to Charlie, and, ah, but letís get back to, to the last couple three years. Letís face it man, you havenít enjoyed yourself. You just been... You do your work, you go work and then ah...

Elvis: I enjoy my work.

Red: Yeah, I know that, thatís the only time we really see you, I really donít see you anymore. The rest of the time, Itís just, ah, I donít know. Itís just ah...

Elvis: We had a pretty good time up in Vail.( Colorado)

Red: Oh yeah, we had a ball in Vail. That was the, man, that was ah, the one time out of the last few years that we really got back to the, back to the, well, whatever, back to knowing how to enjoy ourselves. And I mean everybody just had a ball.

Elvis: Yeah, I know I did.

Red: Yeah, I know I did too. That was something weíd all been wanting to do, just to get out, away from it all, man and...

Elvis: Yeah, you know, thatís ok, because ah, ya know, they just want me to have a house up there.

Red: Yeah.

Elvis: And they want to buy food and everything. So, these real estate guys get a hold of that. I meet at beautiful places, but my thinking is not along those lines right now.

Red: Right, I donít blame you, you can always go up there and rent something.

Elvis: Yeah, Exactly.

Red: But ah, I donít know what, ya know, I donít want to get real upset, ya know, Itís been along time since Iíve talked to you. I donít want to get real serious on the conversation. But, we were all worried about you, ya know, Iíve always been worried about you. Ya know, about taking quite a few things, I thought.

Elvis: You worried about me so much, until you turned around and tried to hurt me. But see, I know what that is.

Red: Well, thatís after you hurt me. You already hurt me and my family very bad. You know, you left us out in the cold. So letís donít talk about me trying to hurt you.
Elvis: Things went on that you didnít even know about.

Red: Yeah, well all I know is I was out in the cold, and couldnít understand...

Elvis: All I know is there was friction created in this group. The vibes were so bad, people were scared to move and everything.

Red: Yeah, thatís true too.

Elvis: So who knows, ah, what the hell they were hearing and being told. I just know it got to be very, very tense. A situation where it could have been fun and a relaxed kinda thing.

Red: Yeah.

Elvis: Something went wrong.

Red: Yeah.

Elvis: And, ah, then on top of the racquetball thing and everything else, all the personal things. I was upset too. It was a fact, ya know, but, ah, we did have to cut down on expenses.

Red: Yeah, well.

Elvis: I had the feeling...

Red: Whatever you had to do, I told your daddy, you know, ah, you gotta do what you gotta do. If you need to cut down on expenses by firing me, ah, you know, thatís a little weird to me. Seems like you could have cut somewhere else. I thought I was important to the organization. But Iím glad I finally found out I wasnít. Cause then, I still got a little life left. Iím gonna, Iím gonna enjoy that. And ah, Iím still young enough I can find something else, you know...

Elvis: Oh, yeah.

Red: But ah, it was just, cutting down on expenses. I just couldnít understand that. All the other, a lot of guys around I thought I was more important to the organization then they were, but I guess I wasnít. But Iím glad I found that out. So...

Elvis: Well, Itís just an unfortunate situation. Heís just now, heís starting to get back on his feet. My daddy has lost down to one hundred and sixty five pounds.

Red: Yeah, you mean now?

Elvis: I think heís up to one hundred and seventy... Eighty, something like that. That just shocked and scared me to death. Because you know how I feel, you know how you felt about your daddy.

Red: Yeah, thatís right. Well...

Elvis: Well, suspicion, Red, was cast on this group. I couldnít figure out the source of it. Suspicion, just like that song we did, ďWe canít go on together with suspicious mindsĒ.

Red: Yeah.

Elvis: So ah, maybe I did act abruptly. First one to admit it. Without thinking.
Red: Yeah, well.

Elvis: You know Sonny was never around, Red..

Red: Yeah.

Elvis: You know, weíve talked about that.

Red: Yeah.

Elvis: Ah, heís a great guy, but he never shared anything with us... I ainít, I ainít got nothing against Sonny. Just ah, Hebler, tried to bully his way through everything, with scare, scare tactics...

Red: Yeah.

Elvis: With some of these young guys.

Red: Well.

Elvis: They would ask questions like... Dean, ya know, and they never could get a straight answer... They were just turned down at every corner.

Red: Yeah.

Elvis: Thatís the only way they could find out. I know, ya know, what it was like, ya know, when I was twenty four years old, shit, I mean, my mind was just scattered to the four winds.

Red: Yeah.

Elvis: They need some kind of guidance. Some things just werenít being done, ya know, just little things just werenít being done Red, you know how they train for the service. Regimentation. Doing the same thing every day and night. I mean, we knew by God, you know, you did in the service what everybody else had served legitimately. But by God at seven oíclock we had to do this, and at three we had to do that. And they do that by repetition.

Red: Sure.

Elvis: Thatís how they train. And all their energy and youth and everything without proper guidance is wasted.

Red: Yeah.

Elvis: I just felt I should ah, talk to you and let you see my side of it.

Red: Yeah, I appreciate that. Ya know, thatís what I wish we had done at the very first. You know, maybe I could have understood it a little bit better. But ah, whatís done is done. You go on from there. I mean, I just, believe me when I tell you I wish you all the luck. I hope you go, right, stay right where you are, right on top for ah, forty more years man. I really do, I mean it with all my heart.

Elvis: Iím working on it.

Red: But I would like to see you get healthy, E. You hadnít been healthy in a while.

Elvis: Oh yes I am.

Red: No youíre not.

Elvis: Yes I am.

Red: Well, ok, you say that.

Elvis: I just had an absolute complete physical head to toe, in the last, ah, two weeks.

Red: Ok, well then Iím glad to hear youíre healthy.

Elvis: One of those things that is required by Lloyds of London, the insurance office.

Red: Well, then this, I donít have to worry about it then.

Elvis: That ah, that thing that I had, that lower intestinal blockage corrected itself, thank God.

Red: Good.

Elvis: I just, I went on a weird liquid diet. That big intestine down there has to have bulk.

Red: Yeah, thatís been discussed.

Elvis: Went on that diet. Twenty days, was ridiculous. Then I heard that was another mistake. (laugh)

Red: Yeah.

Elvis: Turns out that large intestine had nothing to work with, so as a result it stopped working. I keep hearing that shit about being fat and middle aged, ya know...

Red: No, no, I knew that wasnít it. I knew you werenít (Laugh) you ate a lot but you werenít fat, like people are fat. You could tell there was something else wrong. And thatís what I mean, you hadnít, you wasnít healthy. Inside, you, something was wrong inside. Thatís what Iíve been trying... When I try and talk to you about it you get mad, just as you done a while ago. You wouldnít listen to it. Thatís what Iím talking about man. You were, something was wrong inside of you. We didnít know what, we were worried about, we didnít know what it was. We knew it wasnít fat though, it was something else. And you just...

Elvis: You know, I thought I told yíall it was the lower intestine. I supposed to undergo surgery and take part of it out.

Red: Yeah, right, I was there, I remember when we were going to do that. Iím just saying...

Elvis: That was psyching me out, because I didnít know what it was.

Red: Yeah, well, Iím glad to hear itís all straightened out. I really am.

Elvis: Itís been straightened out for a long time. Itís just a failure to communicate. What we had, Red, was crazy. Like that song Roy Hamilton did ďUnderstanding Solves All ProblemsĒ.

Red: Yeah, we didnít...

Elvis: Itís a good folk song.

Red: Yeah, thatís right, we didnít have much understanding there for a long time.
Elvis: Well, I donít know if it was you and I as much as it could have been coming from somebody else. You know, negative vibes.

Red: Right, well, that could very well be too. Iím, Iím not really in to the psychic thing.

Elvis: Well, Iím not either, but I do know, ah, that ah, we are constantly ah, sending and receiving. All the time.

Red: Right, yeah, weíve discussed this. Minds, if they can put a picture through the air, I guess they can put a thought wave through the air too.

Elvis: So thatís why I was feeling, I was feeling the negative things but, and couldnít exactly pinpoint what it was. So I just reached a boiling point, hoped that, ah, youíd understand. It was a temporary thing.

Red: Well.

Elvis: And ah, that was what it was Red, see, I didnít try to get, communicate with anybody. I felt terribly lonely. You know like that number eight. (Red: yeah.) The thing that says theyíre intensely lonely at heart. For this reason, ya know, they feel very lonely,but when in reality they have warm hearts towards the oppressed. But hide their feelings in life but do what they please. Well, Iím a number eight person and so are you.

Red: Yeah, thatís true. And itís been lonely. (Laugh) Itís been lonely man, Iíll tell ya. Itís been... Down right scary.

Elvis: Well, I can see it.

Red: But listen, ah, I just, Iím old enough, I just chalk it up to life man, Itís another step down that railroad, ya know, and ah, I have to learn to cope with it, and go on and try and do something. But ah, what can I say. I donít ah, you know, feel sorry for myself. Iím a grown man. I can do something else, do other things. But ah, like you said there was a failure to communicate there at the last. Maybe I didnít, I wasnít around, and around enough when you wanted to talk to somebody or whatever.

Elvis: Well yeah, maybe all that, Like maybe according to that song Aubrey, ďMaybe I Was Absent And Listening Too FastĒ. But ah, but ah, it just kinda, it bugged me when you said, that was a cruel thing or whatever to Charlie.

Red: I canít hear you, E. Iím sorry.

Elvis: About being ****** up.

Red: Yeah.

Elvis: Cause Iím not. I got a daughter and a life. You know, what profiteth a man if he gains the world and loses his soul?

Red: Yeah.

Elvis: I love to sing, thatís been my thing, since Iív been two years old.

Red: Yeah, I know.

Elvis: You know, we were sitting here playing the guitar and everything, singing old songs, ďLove Is A Many Splendored ThingĒ, and ya know, me and Charlie talked about that harmony part, missing that harmony part. (laugh)

Red: Yeah, well, what can I say, I miss singing it. (Laugh) You know, but thatís the way the ball bounces.

Elvis: Well, you take care of yourself and your family. And if you need me for anything I, ya know, would be more than happy to, to help out.

Red: I appreciate that. I appreciate that.

Elvis: I mean it. I donít give a deleted - see guidelines #2, the articles or publications or none of that shit, That Iíve heard. I just heard rumors, bits and pieces. I donít know nothing, ya know, I was on tour and ah, just heard bits and pieces. I have never really sat down with anybody and had it laid out to me. I donít ah, nothing, I just know that you as a person, and Pat, and ah, if there is anything I can do, anyway of getting a job, anything else. You know, know, Iím still here son.

Red: Well, I appreciate that. I really do. And ah, Iíll tell Pat what you said, that will make her feel better, she was hurt. You know, she couldnít understand it. My kids, my kids really, especially...

Elvis: All of us...

Red: Huh.

Elvis: All of us were hurt in different ways. Itís like that song Desada Deraida, ď Listen To The Dull And The Ignorant, For They Too Have Their StoryĒ. And then Hank Williams wrote ďYou Never Walked In That Mans Shoes Or Saw Things Through His EyesĒ.

Red: Right, thatís true.

Elvis: So you know, after analyzing the damn thing, ah, I can see it, I can see it clearly. Thatís why Iím saying, anything I can do at all, Iíll be more than happy.

Red: Ok, I appreciate it, and ah...

Elvis: You take care of yourself son.

Red: OK, and if, let me say one more thing before you hang up. If everybody is worried about the book, tell them not to. Man, I mean including yourself. Ah, weíre writing the good stuff Elvis, people, the things...

Elvis: Worried about, worried about the book? Well ah, I donít think so.

Red: OK.

Elvis: Not on, not on my part.

Red: OK. Good. Because I was ah, out, I was broke. I was made an offer to write the book. I said Iíll write the book if I can tell all from day one the good, good days. He said all right, whatever.

Elvis: Well, you do whatever you have to do.

Red: Okey doke.

Elvis: I just want you and Pat to know... Iím still here.

Red: Ok, I appreciate that. And you take care of yourself.

Elvis: OK.

Red: OK.

Elvis: Take it easy.

Red: Bye-bye.
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Che lunga telefonata... Sarei curiosa di sapere la traduzione se qualcuno sa bene l'inglese...
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I LOVE ELVIS
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CIAO C'E' ANCHE IL CD DI QUELLA TELEFONATA,NATURALMENTE BOOTLEGH......
CIAO
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ESISTE UN CD DI QUELLA TELEFONATA?!!!!
E IO CHE CREDEVO FOSSE UNO SCOOOPPP!!!!
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e' sempre un bel scoop!!!
anche perche' non tutti sanno di quella famosa telefonata....che venne in piu registrata.....
ciao
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Si ed uno di questi bootleg Ť il soundboard "Moody Blue & Other Great Performances", dove c'Ť una versione di questa telefonate della durata di circa 7:10 min.
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Clint, 7:10 min. intendi 7 ore e 10 minuti? noo, non credo....it's impossible!
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Scusate mi sono espresso male... 7 minuti e 10 secondi...
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Predefinito LA TRADUZIONE E' NEL LIBRO DI GURALNICK!

STO LEGGENDO PER LA 2^ VOLTA IL LIBRO DI GURALNICK, "AMORE SENZA FRENI" (CARELESS LOVE) E STAMATTINA MI SI E' ACCESA LA LAMPADINA ! MI SONO CHIESTA: PERCHE' NON CONTROLLARE SE NEL LIBRO DI GURALNICK C'E' UN RIFERIMENTO ANCHE BREVE DI QUELLA TELEFONATA TRA ELVIS E RED? INFATTI, C'E', ECCOME!!!!
EVIDENTEMENTE DALLA MIA PRIMA LETTURA DEL LIBRO DI ALCUNI MESI FA, DEVO AVERLO DIMENTICATO.
POICHE' PER MOTIVI DI COPYRIGHT NON E' POSSIBILE TRASCRIVERE LE PAGINE DI "AMORE SENZA FRENI", VI AVVISO CHE IL RACCONTO E ALCUNI DIALOGHI DIRETTI TRA ELVIS E RED SONO RIPORTATI ALLE SEGUENTI PAGINE DEL LIBRO: 676-677-678-679.
UNA FRASE DI QUELLA TELEFONATA MI HA PROFONDAMENTE COLPITO. ELVIS DISSE A RED CHE SE L'ERA PRESA QUANDO QUEST'ULTIMO CONFIDO' A CHARLIE CHE (ELVIS) ERA ROVINATO. A QUESTO PUNTO ECCO COSA RISPOSE ELVIS A RED: " IO HO UNA FIGLIA E UNA MIA VITA. CHE GUSTO C'E' PER UN UOMO CONQUISTARE IL MONDO SE POI PERDE LA PROPRIA ANIMA? IO AMO CANTARE DA QUANDO AVEVO 2 ANNI".
NONOSTANTE ELVIS SAPESSE DELLA FUTURA PUBBLICAZIONE DEL LIBRO SCANDALO DA PARTE DI RED, SONNY E DAVE, EGLI AUGURA UGUALMENTE AL SUO AMICO DI AVER CURA DI SE STESSO E DELLA SUA FAMIGLIA E QUALORA AVESSE BISOGNO DEL SUO AIUTO, LUI SAREBBE STATO PRONTO AD AIUTARLO. NON GLIENE FREGAVA NIENTE DI QUEL LIBRO.
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Unhappy Re: LA TRADUZIONE E' NEL LIBRO DI GURALNICK!

Dalla conversazione telefonica tra Red West e Elvis Presley si desume anche che RW fosse preoccupato per la salute di EP e sapeva che i suoi problemi non erano dovuti al mangiare bensž alla tossicodipendenza. EP, invece, negava tutto ciÚ. Da libro di Guralnick si legge che EP era mortificato per l'imminente uscita del libro di RW, SW e DH e parlava anche di ucciderli se avessero "rovinato la mia carriera". Ma era EP a rovinare la propria carriera con l'assunzione di farmaci. Mi dispiace solo che EP non fosse preso forzatemente in cura, anche perchť, come lui stesso dice nella conversazione telefonica con RW, "vogliono dimostrare che noi siamo pazzi" a causa di eccessiva "violenza". Secondo me gli estremi per tali misure esistevano. Gli amici di EP avevano fatto di tutto per aiutarlo. Secondo me il libro di RW, SW e DH era, certo, dovuto alla loro rabbia, ma era altrettanto un ultimo desperato tentativo di salvare Elvis da se stesso. Purtroppo era troppo tardž.

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STO LEGGENDO PER LA 2^ VOLTA IL LIBRO DI GURALNICK, "AMORE SENZA FRENI" (CARELESS LOVE) E STAMATTINA MI SI E' ACCESA LA LAMPADINA ! MI SONO CHIESTA: PERCHE' NON CONTROLLARE SE NEL LIBRO DI GURALNICK C'E' UN RIFERIMENTO ANCHE BREVE DI QUELLA TELEFONATA TRA ELVIS E RED? INFATTI, C'E', ECCOME!!!!
EVIDENTEMENTE DALLA MIA PRIMA LETTURA DEL LIBRO DI ALCUNI MESI FA, DEVO AVERLO DIMENTICATO.
POICHE' PER MOTIVI DI COPYRIGHT NON E' POSSIBILE TRASCRIVERE LE PAGINE DI "AMORE SENZA FRENI", VI AVVISO CHE IL RACCONTO E ALCUNI DIALOGHI DIRETTI TRA ELVIS E RED SONO RIPORTATI ALLE SEGUENTI PAGINE DEL LIBRO: 676-677-678-679.
UNA FRASE DI QUELLA TELEFONATA MI HA PROFONDAMENTE COLPITO. ELVIS DISSE A RED CHE SE L'ERA PRESA QUANDO QUEST'ULTIMO CONFIDO' A CHARLIE CHE (ELVIS) ERA ROVINATO. A QUESTO PUNTO ECCO COSA RISPOSE ELVIS A RED: " IO HO UNA FIGLIA E UNA MIA VITA. CHE GUSTO C'E' PER UN UOMO CONQUISTARE IL MONDO SE POI PERDE LA PROPRIA ANIMA? IO AMO CANTARE DA QUANDO AVEVO 2 ANNI".
NONOSTANTE ELVIS SAPESSE DELLA FUTURA PUBBLICAZIONE DEL LIBRO SCANDALO DA PARTE DI RED, SONNY E DAVE, EGLI AUGURA UGUALMENTE AL SUO AMICO DI AVER CURA DI SE STESSO E DELLA SUA FAMIGLIA E QUALORA AVESSE BISOGNO DEL SUO AIUTO, LUI SAREBBE STATO PRONTO AD AIUTARLO. NON GLIENE FREGAVA NIENTE DI QUEL LIBRO.
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